A Conversation With Gary Vaynerchuk

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A little while back Gary Vaynerchuk, who I greatly respect in terms of understanding culture, threw out an opportunity for pretty much anyone to schedule a phone call with him. I threw my name in the hat and forgot about it after a few weeks had passed. Then I got an email from Gary’s assistant asking me if I was ‘available tomorrow’ for a 15 minute chat with Gary. I wasn’t technically available, but Gary V was calling so I made it happen. Our team was off site for a two day retreat on a ranch somewhere deep in the heart of Texas. To my surprise the T-Mobile came through and I had connectivity.

I had pitched to Gary that I wanted to pick his brain about the relationship between creatives and ‘type A’ business minded people.

I told him my story of how throughout my career, projects and business dealings I had leveraged my ideas and creativity to make money and grow organizations for ‘type A’ people but time and time again was not content with the imbalance of reward coming my way for my efforts. I knew intrinsically that these two personality types need each other to accomplish great things but more often than not, the creative got the short end of the stick; think Tesla and Edison.

Here are some of the highlights from our brief chat:

Execution

As an idea person, artist and creative you often live inside your own mind a lot. We have to balance that with actually executing on those ideas. How you execute is different for everyone, but a big part of that is having a more ‘type a’ or driven person to pull the ideas out of you.

For the type A; you have to learn to trust the creative and learn how to build boundaries around them so they have a sandbox to play in. Make that space too constrained and you will run them off or paralyze them.

At the end of the day, you need someone to balance your strengths and fill in for your weaknesses.

Trust

This is a hard one for me having been burned by more than one cult of personality. Neither the artist or the type A can operate in their strength when trust isn’t there. If the artist doesn’t trust the type A then the best ideas never come to light. If the type A doesn’t trust the artist then micromanagement will destroy any progress.

Slow Down

When an artist is fully in their sweet spot they live in a reality that is literally a polar opposite from the type A and the same goes the other way. There are times when you both need to throttle back and sync up in a space and time that has a common language and substrate for you to make progress an execute. When you’re trying to lead in your strengths you are often much farther in the future than those you’re trying to lead. The artist is so in love with their ideas they can push them too hard and the type A can be so passionate about hustle that they get tunnel vision.

Gary said to me;

“The world has changed. It hasn’t changed as much as you think it has but it has changed more than they think it has.”

This came at a good time for me as I was heavily in a phase of future planning and working on strategy for our team…and I tend to live too far in the future for most people.

4 thoughts on “A Conversation With Gary Vaynerchuk

  1. Had a chance to pick @garyvee’s brain. Here are the notes: http://t.co/8BRrbo9cuJ

    June 5, 2013 at 9:28 pm
  2. Great stuff! Thanks for sharing. RT @m_vince: Had a chance to pick @garyvee’s brain. Here are the notes: http://t.co/Z9kqXL7SzC

    June 5, 2013 at 9:56 pm
  3. Heckdaddy

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